Recorded on February 24 2026 #Millettian
AI era electricity demand is forcing investors to rethink coal. In this conversation Steve Yang sits down with Matt Warder of The Coal Trader to break down why data center buildouts can keep baseload generation in focus and why coal fundamentals still move on old-school commodity constraints like supply lag, infrastructure, and policy. Matt explains the key split between thermal coal for power and metallurgical coal for steel and why each market has its own cycle, catalysts, and price sensitivity. They dig into the storage bottleneck, what it would take for coal plants to retire faster, and how emerging market demand can overwhelm Western narratives. You also get a practical walkthrough of coal price cycles, what levels stress producers, what kinds of shocks can ignite spikes, and how to think about timing entries and exits in coal equities without getting whipsawed. Finally Matt shares how he built The Coal Trader and what he watches week to week when the tape gets volatile.
KEY TOPICS
AI data centers and why power demand is suddenly the coal story again
Thermal coal versus metallurgical coal and why the cycles diverge
Baseload reality coal gas nuclear and the storage constraint
Why coal plant retirements can slow even with aggressive transition goals
Emerging market growth India and the global demand pull
Seasonal thermal restocking and the steel driven met coal cycle
Cost curve levels that squeeze producers and reshape price floors
How shocks like wars weather and logistics can trigger violent spikes
A practical framework for timing coal equities without chasing headlines
How Matt built The Coal Trader and what he monitors week to week
GUEST LINKS
https://thecoaltrader.substack.com
HOST STEVE YANG NATURAL RESOURCE STOCKS
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Cold Open AI demand keeps coal online
01:49 Intro and what we cover today
02:33 Coal 101 thermal vs metallurgical
03:47 AI data centers and the US power cycle
04:27 Could coal plants run longer
05:40 Baseload options and storage limits
07:25 Why people misread coal in the AI era
09:59 Transition narrative vs grid reality
12:16 Emerging markets demand and India
14:52 Policy and permitting choke points
16:27 Seasonal cycles in thermal coal
17:34 Met coal and the steel cycle
18:49 2021 to 2022 spike and supply lag
19:26 Cost curve new floors and breakpoints
21:30 Chart walk through where we are
23:37 Pullbacks and timing entries
25:02 Accumulation framework and setup
30:04 Coal investing mindset for retail
31:58 Example charts and trade management
37:40 Producer landscape and positioning
39:55 How Matt became The Coal Trader
43:26 Where to follow and subscribe
45:15 Closing
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