Recorded on January 21, 2026.
Steve Yang sits down with Larry C. Johnson — former CIA officer and former U.S. State Department Office of Counterterrorism official — for a wide-ranging conversation on the narratives, incentives, and geopolitical pressure points shaping today’s headlines. #Millettian
This interview covers:
- Venezuela and the “regime change” lens
- Who benefits from the storyline — and what’s being “gaslit”
- Rare earth minerals and why places like Greenland keep showing up
- NATO dynamics and escalation logic
- Russia/China tensions and the role of provocation
- Tariffs and who actually pays the bill
- What it means to keep a confrontation going with a nuclear power
Guest Links (Larry C. Johnson)
Sonar21 (Website): https://sonar21.com/
Substack: https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/
X (Twitter): https://x.com/LarrySonar21
Telegram: https://t.me/sonar_21
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/u80288936
Host & Channel Links
Natural Resource Stocks (Website): https://www.NaturalResourceStocks.net
Natural Resource Stocks (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/@naturalresourcestocks
Steve Yang (X): https://twitter.com/SteveYang_Market
Steve Yang (LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/in/steveyang88/
Andy Millette (X): https://twitter.com/AndyMillette
Andy Millette (LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/in/andymillette/
Chapters
00:00 Intro + Larry’s background
01:09 Venezuela + the “regime change” frame
04:50 “Gaslighting” and the incentives question
09:07 Rare earths + why Greenland keeps popping up
13:47 NATO pressure and escalation logic
14:41 Russia/China provocation + “91 drones”
22:05 “No more wars” messaging vs reality
30:08 Tariffs: who bears the brunt?
33:14 “Confrontation with a nuclear power”
35:30 Final thoughts + wrap
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